West Hants forging ahead with creation of new fire department

Carole Morris-Underhill
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UPDATED: May 14

Although the Windsor Fire Department has been without an agreement with the Municipality of West Hants for about four years, the volunteer firefighting force continues to provide service and mutual aid to rural residents.

West Hants is severing its long-standing ties with the Windsor Fire Department – but that decision was far from unanimous.

During council's regular monthly meeting Tuesday night, May 13, Deputy Warden Gary Cochrane made a motion for council to move forward with the construction of “one or two” fire stations, as deemed necessary, to service the area of West Hants currently receiving fire protection from the Windsor Fire Department. The same motion requested the CAO “discuss the orderly phase-out of service” with the WFD.

Windsor firefighters have been providing fire protection for West Hants residents for more than 60 years. Despite not having a signed contract with the municipality for the past four years, the WFD has continued to answer their emergency calls.

Leading up to the motion to sever ties, councillors were discussing the letter Windsor Fire Chief Scott Burgess had sent in reply to the municipality’s registered letter.

Although the chief's letter was received at the municipal office on May 8, it wasn't until the night of May 13 that councillors had the chance to read the letter.

They took a moment to do so during the meeting.

In the letter, Burgess asks council to allow the WFD executive the chance to present at West Hants' committee of the whole meeting May 27.

“It's just plain stall tactics,” said Cochrane. “Everybody is right; we've got to do something. It's up to us to make that decision.”

Cochrane proceeded to remind Warden Richard Dauphinee that the warden has a copy of the motion he was about to make. (Cochrane had the motion before him, typed out on a piece of paper.)

After the motion was made, and seconded by Coun. Tom Brown, councillors were granted permission to discuss it.

Cochrane said the issues with the WFD have been going on for far too long, alleging there “is an objective” to drag the issue out for more than half of their municipal term.

The Hants Journal reported earlier this month that the WFD is finding it difficult to continue to serve the county without payment – the municipality changed the way they fund the WFD more than a year ago and have not paid them since April 2013. The deputy warden said after hearing this, he felt like the chief was threatening to pull service.

“I'm afraid for our residents. We're being held at ransom, that's what it is,” said Cochrane.

He further pointed out that the municipality is “running out of building time” for the new station.

 

No more rash decisions

When Coun. Jennifer Daniels took the floor, she urged council not to make any decisions in haste.

She said she could see why the WFD executive was confused after receiving council's registered letter in April.

She noted that the municipal solicitor suggested council refrain from making any motions pertaining to the fire service until the alleged conflict of interest investigation involving Coun. Victor Swinamer was resolved. Swinamer is the father-in-law of the Windsor fire chief. The alleged conflict is being investigated by the provincial attorney general's office.

Daniels said she understands “the Windsor Fire Department's confusion” over receiving the registered letter because council has been sending mixed messages.

“Meanwhile, they're sitting idle waiting for us to untangle ourselves and I think that is what we need to do before we make any rash decisions to spend taxpayer's money for a duplication of service,” said Daniels.

She suggested council work towards cleaning up the number of motions on the floor pertaining to fire services before forging ahead with a plan to go out on their own.

“I really think we're in a mess. We're in a motion mess. I would like to see that cleared up before we... make any more decisions,” she said.

Coun. Mike Campbell, who has been a vocal supporter of council working out its differences with the WFD, pleaded with his fellow elected officials to consider the Ivany Report recommendations and find some common ground to work together.

I think it's about time we cut to the chase, cut the cheque, resolve it and get on with the rest of it,” he said.

After much talk around the table, the motion passed, with Cochrane, Reed Allen, Brown, Randy Matheson, Shirley Pineo and Dauphinee voting in favour. The three councillors voting in opposition were Campbell, Daniels and Swinamer.

When approached for comment following the council meeting, which lasted nearly five hours and wrapped up just before midnight, Dauphinee said it was late and that he'd like to have time to get his thoughts together. He suggested a publicist may be hired to release statements regarding the fire services issue.

 

WFD distressed, saddened by council's choice

The Windsor Fire Department's executive issued a statement May 14 in response to council's motion.

(You can read the full response here.)

Burgess said the decision “deeply distressed” the firefighting organization as they were hopeful an agreement could have been reached with the municipality.

The motion passed by West Hants council last night makes it clear to us that they had already made up their mind to terminate our relationship. We do not believe that this decision reflects the will of the residents that we have served for so many years,” said Burgess in the statement.

All over Nova Scotia we are seeing municipalities dissolve and service costs rise. Now, more than ever, we think towns and municipalities should be looking at shared services for the benefit of the citizens. It saddens us that egos and personal politics seem to be guiding life-safety decisions.”

The WFD will be meeting over the coming days to determine their response to council's decision.

 

Stay tuned for more details.

 

Organizations: Windsor Fire Department

Geographic location: West Hants

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  • hoi polli
    May 18, 2014 - 21:08

    As a concerned citizen I am appalled by the recent comments by west hants council. This should be sent to a plebisite. There is too much money involved and it affects too many people. Something smells here. Somebody is going to make some money off this. It's time for the west hants council to tell the truth about this. Be brave and hold a PLEBISITE and this will be over and done with. If you are afraid to do this the people would like to know why

  • Pam Patterson
    May 16, 2014 - 14:51

    I can not believe that West Hants Council voted against the wishes of the community. We presented a signed petition to the Council which they ignored. The majority of the people of West Hants who are affected by this decision do not want their own fire department, we are very happy with the GREAT service from Windsor. I think that they councilors who are serviced by their own fire departments should have abstained from the vote because they are not affected by this terrible vote. Gary Cochrane's son works for Brooklyn Fire Department. What are the people in the municipality going to do if they have a fire? Will we have to pay Windsor before they will respond? What a TERRIBLE decision by West Hants Council.

  • Re:John
    May 16, 2014 - 14:02

    So John, let me get this straight. You're saying that this is oh so simple yet West Hants is running off of a report** (by Wayne Swinamer, an ex-Windsor firefighter) that was not completed. They have absolutely no plan for if Windsor walks off. They don't even know if Hantsport or Brooklyn will step in to help.** This is absolute nonsense, those who are supporting this have personal problems with Windsor and should just grow up and deal with it in a more professional way. As a firefighter this is ridiculous, the only thing firefighters want is the best for the citizens of West Hants in terms of protection. The way things work right now is fantastic. What DOESN'T work is this West Hants council. What a joke. **Sentence modified to comply with web commenting policy

    • John
      May 21, 2014 - 12:46

      This is a sad state. Re: John, You are aware of all that West Hants has or is doing to organize things, are you inside West Hants Municipality, You know? There is a thing in this world call a difference of option. You have yours and I have mine. We are entitled to those. Now we are into "personal problems"? My my. Oh I just read in your comment.... "AS A FIREFIGHTER". Oh and we are not biases are we? Citizen 2, Was West Hants asked for documents, did they refuse to supply them? No one is saying that there are not wonderful firefighters and fantastic volunteers also. This is not in question at all by anyone. UGH Have an accounting background and this can be done quite easily. Sorry. Andrew EXACTLY, These are questions that need to be asked with the proper parties and we as residents can discuss this with our Councillors where we can get all the FACTS. We all have a duty to do what it best for our Municipality. Due diligence on costs to make cost effective decisions for the long term. Not saying West Hants is right or wrong. It needs to be evaluated and do what is best for the residents.

  • citizen 2
    May 16, 2014 - 13:20

    John give your head a shake,your going on about the fire deparment not giving there paper work. What about the west hants council not giving any concrete costs or information on what their doing? They are just pushing this ahead when no buddy wants it. I think they better re-think what they are doing because I can not see where their going to get firefighters that will be able to respond (most people work to far away to be able to respond in time). If it wasn't going to be all our tax money paying for this and being waisted I would love to see these councillors** build it and then see how big a mistake they made.See a building empty because no one to look after it and no volunteers to respond,but it is our tax money their waisting. We have a very good thing going as is with the Windsor fire department. They are well trained and do a great job. There is no way that we could do any better so leave it as is. Just pay them for gods sake, by the way where is the tax money that was paid and was supposed to pay for fire services if they never paid the fire department for 2 years. **Sentence modified to comply with web commenting policy

  • GET REAL.
    May 16, 2014 - 13:08

    Perhaps before the Windsor Fire Department comes to put out a fire at your home, we could have them stop and get fuel specifically for each call, that way we could have a specific receipt allocated to a county call or town call. I mean, they would be several minutes late to put out the fire at your home, but at least the municipality would have properly allocated receipts for both town and municipality. Perhaps that would make warden a happy camper. Does this sound foolish? Because that is how foolish this matter is.

  • UGH.
    May 16, 2014 - 12:59

    The receipt issue is being fully misunderstood. The WFD books have been WIDE OPEN for the Municipality to review. However, anyone with an accounting background can understand how it is far more complicated than just showing receipts. Picture this, you go and fill up your fire truck full of fuel and then get a call to a fire in the Town of Windsor. Later that evening you get a call to a fire in the Municipality. How do you allocate the cost of that fuel? How many calls are county calls and how many calls are town calls? Buying gear for the firefighters as well - how do you decide what portion of the cost of that gear should be allocated to the Town of Windsor and how much allocated to the Municipality? WFD has shown the Municipality the books. The issue is bigger than seeing receipts for gear, fuel, etc.** The WFD has stated many times "the books are wide open, come take a look." They DON'T WANT TO TAKE A LOOK BECAUSE THEY HAVE ALREADY MADE UP THEIR MINDS. **Sentence modified to comply with web commenting policy

  • Andrew
    May 16, 2014 - 09:49

    Could someone please explain: What, exactly, are these receipts that WH is asking for? I can understand both parties sitting down with an audited copy of the WFD books, a map and a history of the number of calls to the area and working out a fair price for service. But, receipts for what, exactly? Gas fill-ups that are 100% for use when driving to the area in question? I'm mystified.

  • Krista Lunn
    May 15, 2014 - 18:59

    Perhaps we should all contact the Minister in charge of Municipal Affairs and state our collective concerns. If the province can step in to remove elected school board officials in other parts of the province, maybe they can step in to support us with this terrible situation. It seems to me that the overwhelming majority of citizens have lost faith in the ability of the council to work on our behalf (save a few outnumbered voices on council..) BTW John, we are not all uninformed. We are equally as informed as you, but clearly feel very differently. We have heard your opinion and wholeheartedly disagree.

    • Leah Rissesco
      May 18, 2014 - 14:22

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  • Grover Crowe
    May 15, 2014 - 17:09

    We cannot ,as responsible citizens of West Hants, just sit back and let this foolishness continue. Windsor has a very professional department and we are lucky to have their service. Brooklyn also has a great department and we have just built them a brand new station.It's time to have a plebiscite vote for all West Hants citizens and see what the people say. So far, to us, it looks like only six people are driving this forward. They can vote too. What,s it going to take to carry this out?

  • Mac
    May 15, 2014 - 13:34

    I think it is time our so called Council start to take the wishes of the public in mind. It seems the voters don't even exist. Only three councillors who would be affected by this move stood up against the old "Guard" Congrats to the three of you !!! I truly believe that when this amount of money is being spent it should go to a plebiscite. Get off your butt and pay Windsor Fire Dept the money owed to them. Tax time is coming close maybe we as residents of West Hants should get together and withhold our taxes. Oh sorry only the politicians can withhold monies

  • Jocelyn Wright
    May 14, 2014 - 20:51

    I can't believe the residents of West Hants support this decision!

    • Tim
      May 14, 2014 - 21:46

      They don't, that's the ridiculous thing about this! This is outrageous as WE as the citizens do NOT want this. This is a PERSONAL problem that has gotten way out of hand! This needs to stop now! I am absolutely infuriated. We have stabbed our volunteer firefighters in the back and also have had them torn into pieces due to the potential of separating the department into pieces. At times Windsor has trouble getting a truck on the road due to the workforce going to the valley or HRM during the day, you think splitting that into three makes sense? At least TRY to work with Windsor. What a load of crap.

  • Leah Rissesco
    May 14, 2014 - 20:11

    I have just recently been told that we can indeed put together a petition requesting to have the Warden and Dep. Warden removed due to irresponsible use of public money. 1) No one asked them to sever ties with Windsor, that is their own extreme bias. 2) There has been no qualified, detailed actual professional cost analysis of building two more stations and running three (presuming they will continue to allow Station 2 to operate). 3) They have repeatedly refused to negotiate in good faith. 4) They have gone against the original terms of service and changed the method of payment without consultation. 5) They are demanding things of Windsor Fire that they have made no requirements of reporting from any other fire service inWest Hants. Anyone want to add anything?

    • JIMMYD
      May 15, 2014 - 21:12

      Totaly agree Leah......So how do we get the ball rolling on this......Lets get a commitee together and finally solve this fiasco.......

  • What a Joke
    May 14, 2014 - 19:09

    Absolutely ridiculous... how do those 6 people think this is a viable option?? My taxes & home insurance are high enough I don't need this to raise them! How does the municipality plan to pay for these fire houses to be built? Who do they plan to have fight the fires?? Volunteer Firefighters are selfless amazing people and they are already members of the local fire departments, so either lots of people need to come out of the wood work, or the current departments will have to sacrifice members to these "New" departments... so what happens when they spend all this money and they don't have enough firefighters to run the place? Will Richard & his band of misfits be jumping in the trucks to save your home?? How many lives & homes will be lost because of this ridiculous decision?? Stop acting like children fighting on the playground, you people have made a mockery of this community!! PS. Love the horse killing comment! Lol

  • idiots
    May 14, 2014 - 16:01

    this is about more than receipts john. do you honestly believe if receipts were produced they wouldn't be forging ahead?

  • Leah Rissesco
    May 14, 2014 - 14:23

    Dear John, WFD is not an employee of the Municipality of West Hants. They are a service provider just like, Waste Management, RCMP, EHS and so on. WFD has made their accounting practices available to the Municipality. So little you know yet how vocal you are. You must be within an area that currently has fire protection, I no longer do, in spite of the fact that I spent nine years of my life helping to build Station 2, and another nine years as a Volunteer Fire Fighter. Kicked out from under us just because of the petty playground antics of the Municipalty's councillors. I guess peoples horses aren't the only thing s getting killed. Our little community has just been stabbed, someone call 911....... Crickets,,,,,crickets,,,,,,oh yeah, we have no service.

  • GiveYourHeadAShake
    May 14, 2014 - 12:36

    Sad to see personal conflicts basically dictate where this is now. There is merit in having a station in every community, it makes sense, seeing as an average response time should be lower but that is providing all responding members are able to get to the station in a timely manner. In the past WFD was afforded the luxury having the majority of its members working within a 5 minute response of the station. Nowadays I'd likely be safe in saying a lot of folks work in the HRM. They still get good numbers though because in it's catchment area WFD still has members who are home from work, school or whatever. On the best of days, Falmouth, Three Mile Plains, Windsor Forks, etc individually would not have enough during the average working day and where is that help gonna end up coming from? Other fire departments such as Windsor (huh??), Hantsport, Brooklyn, Mt.Uniacke. This in turn will put a drain on those departments to ensure they have the resources still available to handle an emergency in their area....and so the mutual aid system has to expand. I remember times when 2-3 pages go out in out-lying departments just to get 4 qualified folks to handle a medical call. The time frame between pages is usually 1-2 minutes, that is a looooong time when seconds count. On the financial side of things: Start-up costs and maintenance costs will be high and will always be high. Prices never come down and likely to start-up West Hants will side with lowest-bidder but cheaper PPE and equipment for their vollies, which in this world you get what you pay for and stuff will likely need frequent replacing. The insurance companies are wringing their hands right now too. They stand to prosper by steeply increasing insurance rates for everyone....including Windsor residents. Dissolving the current WFD will mean they too would have to requalify for their rating which has historically been one of the lowest ever offered across Canada and enjoyed by all who WFD serves. It will take years, maybe even a generation before any perceived benefit might be seen by residents of West Hants but by then I am sure the playing field and scope of the need will have drastically changed.

  • Dave Morrison
    May 14, 2014 - 12:27

    My wife and I returned to the Windsor area (Falmouth) four years ago this month and have been following this saga pretty much since we returned. I honestly believed, in my heart, that common sense would eventually prevail; how wrong that turned out to be. It appears that Mr. Dauphinee and his band of five are going to unnecessarily financially burden the municipality for millions of dollars, for years to come, simply to satisfy their own egos. Most of them probably won't even be back for another term to deal with it - somebody else will have to clean up their mess. If this were a business the shareholders would now be calling for an emergency stockholders meeting to replace the management team. How can anybody possibly think that more departments in the same geographical area could possibly be less expensive to run? Look at HRM, they are closing departments and amalgamating services for cost effectiveness and our elected representives just voted to "move forward with the construction of “one or two” fire stations, as deemed necessary". They don't even know what is "necessary" to replace the current service, never mind the cost. Just recently there was a news article about volunteer fire departments in NS not being able to attract enough applicants and some are in danger of folding because of this; who will man the "one or two" now being proposed for the county? I understand it is a a thankless job to be a councillor and I commend all of the current council for their service however you are there to vote for/with the people of West Hants not just your own personal bias. I contend that the vast majority of people, directly affected by this troubling decision, would have voted opposite to Dauphinee and his band of five. Thank-you Mike, Jennifer and Victor for being the voice of reason. Is it coincidence that these three councillors are some of the newest and also from the areas most affected by the most recent decision. Thank-you also to the Windsor Fire Department for continuing to respond to county calls while money has been childishly withheld as a form of ransom. Mr. Dauphinee please do the right thing and allow your staff and the fire department to sit down and work this out or get an adjudicator involved.

  • CITIZEN
    May 14, 2014 - 12:04

    i too am a tax paying citizen of the west hants muncipality and i guess i will retire a windsor firefighter and be proad of it . I will not move on as I have been a proud member of Windsor Fire and see it very fitiing that I retire that way. Sorry West Hantsyou lose again .Again they have no idea what there in for ,no rational organization would take any chances to lose what they have had,just sad day.

    • Ryan
      May 14, 2014 - 16:42

      Why not remain in Windsor? Is there something saying that because this dept is standing up you cannot volunteer in Windsor? I know of one case in the Valley where a volunteer ff has to pass another station when responding to his dept's calls.

  • Citizen
    May 14, 2014 - 11:00

    Sad to think that my opinion as a firefighter was never asked of me. There is no real study done by West Hants to make an educated decision in regards to this.** I, as a firefighter, will not be volunteering for the new station as there is no way I am going to support something that was made in an uneducated decision in regards to the protection of West Hants. We have something that works now and due to personal problems, it's being reduced. We need to work together, not against. This council is an embarrassment to us all. **One sentence modified to comply with web commenting policy

    • NoOneListensAnyway
      May 14, 2014 - 11:42

      Citizen - you are not the only FF who won't be joining this corrupt new station. Sadly the ones we want to protect will lose because we cannot serve under an administration we cannot support.

  • CITIZEN
    May 14, 2014 - 10:37

    I GUESS THIS SHOWS THE PEOPLE THAT THERE OPIONS VOTE OR EXPRESSION HAVE NO MERRIT.ITS A SAD DAY IN THE HISTORY OF FIRE FIGHTING IN OUR REGION AND MARKS A CLOADY DAY THAT CAN NEVER BE ERASED OR UNDONE. I JUST HOPE THEY REALLY KNOW WHAT THERE IN FOR AND PRAY TO GOD IT DOES NOT BACKFIRE IN A BAD WAY.THEY HAVE NO IDEA

  • NoOneListensAnyway
    May 14, 2014 - 10:24

    I have SO MANY comments and I'm afraid I would run out of typing ability. FIRST, being an employee and being in a contractual relationship are very different. VERY DIFFERENT. Do some research. Providing receipts was a ridiculous request. Do you think WFD orders bunker gear on separate slips and gets separate receipts for rural members and for townies? Do you think Town trucks roll only to Town calls and therefore any Town truck expenses are truly town expenses? What about when a Town truck sits at Stn 2? Would the gas to get it there and any repairs resulting from it's time there require billing to West Hants. Ok driver, remember to let the pump stop after you have x amount of litres in there and get a separate receipt for West Hants and then x amount of litres and we will get a receipt for the Town? Seriously? Do you see how ridiculous the receipt issue is? I can go on and on about how foolish it is. As for the registered letter thing, I won't comment because I don't know when the counting of days started for their reply. I don't know the full contents of the letter either. Do you? What I do know is the majority of residents are not seeking a lesser service for a higher cost. Cost being insurance and taxes to our residents. I know that West Hants CANNOT provide the same service that WFD provides. Day time response is a prime example...where are all the day time responders coming from in West Hants? Do we have an abundant of able bodied, willing, potential or trained fire fighters who live/work within minutes of this new proposed station who can provide the protection that WFD has proven time and time again that they can provide? I'll give you that West Hants' numbers will greatly increase in the Winter when so many of our residents are on EI, but I still don't see how they think they can provide the same response time all year.

  • JIMMYD
    May 14, 2014 - 07:16

    As you can see ,none of them are worried about fire protection....Allen has Summerville FD, Cochrane, Pineo and Dauphinee are all in Brooklyn FD range and I don't think Brown has a property.....We ,as always being controlled by those who only think of themselves....

  • Leah Rissesco
    May 14, 2014 - 07:11

    PS Where is the Municipal Overseer?

  • Leah Rissesco
    May 14, 2014 - 07:08

    Sounds like there was a party of six meeting without the rest of council. Well they have left us out here in Vaughan high and dry just like they have always intended to do. I do believe the Municipality is breaking their own rules. Just my opinion, however, there are some developers who may have to put an abrupt halt to any and all development. According to the "Municipality of the District of West Hants- Municipal Planning Strategy" Page 81, Policy 9.1.10 It shall be the policy of Council to consider proposals for grouped single and two unit dwellings consisting of six or more units in the General Resource zone by development agreement subject to the following: (k) adequate emergency protection services, including fire, police and ambulance, can be provided. Again in my opinion, that would adversely effect folks like Terra Nova, McDow, Brison and perhaps others that I am not familiar with or where they build? There are already questions about an inadequate number of police officers for West Hants. If the fire service is not sustained by reason of non payment and now severance wouldn't that make all of those development agreements null and void because of the Municipality's actions (or lack there of)? That would be two strikes out of a possible three. I wonder what would happen if the Municipality toke a vote on changing the payment methods of any other service provider that they deal with (without including them in the conversation) And see how they respond. Let's see them treat all service providers the same. I, as a tax paying citizen would like to see the operating receipts of Waste Management, RCMP, and any other by contract service provider for West Hants. If the answer is "Well that's different." Than it is an inadequate answer and it is unacceptable behaviour by our Municipality? They are now putting one of the few sources of revenue for West Hants in jeopardy. They have now put peoples lives and property at stake. That would be an irresponsible thing to do.

    • John
      May 14, 2014 - 09:36

      I don't know where you get this FREE thing. The money is there to pay WFD when they provided expenses, as asked over and over. They didn't want to reply, why is that? Same as responding and wanting a meeting to discuss the REGISTER letter. Everyone is meeting to death on this. RESPOND to the letter in writing, provide what is asked, EASY. This is the problem. When they pay for their own service then they can make the decisions, until them RESPOND like asked. This really isn't a complicated thing but is being made into something that is shouldn't be. Causing one against the other. Do it and get it over with, well too late now. Hope WFD is pleased they didn't do what was asked of them. It was quite simple. Give me a break, you would like to waste more time by seeing receipts of all businesses West Hants deals with? (More wasted time). They can't even get the ones from WFD, how about you ask for those and see if you can get the answers and save West Hants the time instead of trying to create more wasted time. It is their job to see if the can do things in a more efficient manner for a LONG TERM not just today. All Municipalities are trying to find what they can do more efficiently to save residents money as you can't keep having costs going up and up and up every year. You have to start doing things differently. (We can't solve problems with the same kind of thinking that created them) Change is needed in how we do things. One for Two fire departments may serve you and your fellow West Hants residents better in the LONG term. The Municipality can manage their LONG term costs instead of someone else, who just keep making them rise with no accountability to the residents. WFD has not provided what was asked of them numerous times and the funds ARE there to pay them as soon as they DO. No one is asking for anything for FREE. WFD seems to forget, they are providing a SERVICE and West Hants would be the EMPLOYER. WFD does not tell the EMPLOYER how to do business, it is the other way around. They seem to forget this. When you go to work and your employer asked you to do something, could you say "I am not doing that and I will think about it, maybe we can have a few meetings to discuss whether I will do it or not". NO, you would do it. Your being paid by the employer and you are providing a service to which you get paid for. Do it or you might be terminated. One or two stations will provide the services required to the West Hants residents currently covered by WFD and will only make the area more appealing to new business and new residents as we will have the infrastructure to take care of this. Change is difficult but it has to be done to grow and develop. Stop the arguing and let’s move on to better things.

  • HA
    May 14, 2014 - 06:20

    I wonder who will be covering the area in the mean time. Or do they just expect WFD to continue serving the area for free until they get their new station in place?

    • Geraldine Miller
      May 14, 2014 - 11:17

      Wondering the same thing.... WHAT A MESS WE ARE IN ! HELP !

    • john
      May 14, 2014 - 11:46

      ITS NOT FREEEEEEE, MONEY IS THERE WHEN THEY PROVIDE DOCUMENTS.

    • NoOneListensAnyway
      May 14, 2014 - 11:54

      The documents they want are receipts and that's not possible!!! See above for my rant on receipts...summarized as follows: Do you think WFD orders bunker gear on separate slips and gets separate receipts for rural members and for townies? Do you think Town trucks roll only to Town calls and therefore any Town truck expenses are truly town expenses? What about when a Town truck sits at Stn 2? Would the gas to get it there and any repairs resulting from it's time there require billing to West Hants. Ok driver, remember to let the pump stop after you have x amount of litres in there and get a separate receipt for West Hants and then x amount of litres and we will get a receipt for the Town? Seriously? How about heating costs, do you think they get separate receipts from their furance fuel provider, what would the instructions to the delivery person be? Please pump x% into our tank so we can bill West Hants their portion of our heating for the season.

    • HA
      May 14, 2014 - 12:16

      You can build as many fire stations as you want. If you don't have the members to run in what good are they? Council seems to think firefighters are going to come crawling out of the wood work to join this new service running under the dictatorship of West Hants council who have no sweet clue how to properly run it.

    • John
      May 14, 2014 - 12:47

      Seriously... all assocaited cost to windsor or west hants CAN be broken down within a spread sheet, Seriously. Any to say, NOONE will volenteer to be a firefighter to protect THEIR property, Family or friends is SAD. I have much more faith in the good people of Hant than you do. The new stations will serve their residents the same as Brooklyn, Summerville or anywhere else. We have wonderful residents within Hants and I believe they will serve their community as we should. This negative nonsense has to stop. Let's move forward to a new positive beginning with one or two new fire halls.

    • Ryan
      May 14, 2014 - 16:01

      I'm sure Windsor will because I don't think they'd turn their backs on the citizens they've protected for years. I'd be interested to see what the municipality would do in the case that Windsor Fire said "fine, you're on your own now". Rely on everyone but Windsor to give the areas coverage? What I'm most interested in seeing is A) who's going to be the leadership of this outfit and what qualifications/experience do they have. B) Who will the other officers be and again what are their qualifications and level of experience. C) How many people do they have that are 100% going out and joining this dept. How many people have experience in the fire service or will they be starting from the ground up and hoping for the best with a bunch of untrained people D) How many people will be available for calls both day and night on a regular basis. Many dept's in Canada struggle to get people to come out and join so I don't exactly see people lining up by the hundreds to join up. It's great to say you'll build halls, get trucks and gear but if you don't have the people to run them or have the proper experience it may not turn out to well. It will take this group quite a while to get to the same level of service that Windsor provides and I have a funny feeling that they'll be calling on others, like Windsor, quite often to come bail them out.